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Rowland, Mary Katherine

File consists of a recording of Mary Rowland. Topics of the conversation include limited job opportunity for subject as Queen's Commerce graduate, 1928;usual female procedure into teaching, office work; job scarcity for statisticians. Career development: Ottawa Tariff Board position, recommended by Dr. Mackintosh (subject let go without notice after Stock Market crash, change of government); brief employment by Montreal advertising agency; Queen's library work, prompting study at U. of T. Library School (subsequent disappointing salary raise of $2 per week). Approach from Queen's fellow-student Sandy Skelton (Rhodes Scholar; son of O.D.Skelton, Queen's graduate prominent in Dept. of External Affairs), Chief of Research Dept., Bank of Canada, to organise most important financial library in Canada previous to Bank opening (1936). Organisation of library from scratch, 'a young librarian's dream'; appointment as Assistant to the Secretary (Skelton),Royal Commission on Dominion-Provincial Relations; huge Commission programme, enlisting eminent economists from across Canada (notably Drs. Mackintosh, Corry, Deutsch - all Queen's Principals). Subject's original Queen's degree programme, dominant interest in organisations: involvement as Levana Society president, captain of champion intercollegiate women's hockey team. Photographs of Levana executive, hockey team (including H. Laird); interviewer's fascination with changing style of hockey uniforms, short haircuts, 'tube' skates; subject's recent contact with members, still energetic, great travellers. Travel experiences: boat trip to visit German exchange­student (1937); trips abroad after 1958; yearly trips since 1970. Photographic hobby. Shelving of Royal Commission report with advent of WWII; subject's Personnel Dept. position in charge of Bank of Canada female employees. Personnel expansion during WWII: hiring students, housewives, retired persons by the hundred to staff War Savings Certificates Dept., Foreign Exchange Control Board; contrast with previous tight job market; low salaries (not till the end of war did salaries match work). Article on subject, 'Name in the News', Toronto Saturday Night; photo portrait by Karsh. Position as Assistant to Chief of Personnel, in charge of both sexes; reflection on sexual basis, now unacceptable, of previous position in charge of female employees. Recruiting for Bank at Queen's. Cancellation of Foreign Exchange Board, release of married women by Bank after WWII; retention of 200-300 single/needy women; general sentiment that women should make way for men in the post-war job market. Return of married women to paid work in the 1960s, related to 1950s baby boom; fluctuations in teaching job market; new options for women resulting in fewer women training as teachers. Interviewer's comment that today's students cling to studies to avoid facing employment difficulties; subject's comment that students/workers are cushioned now against unemployment as her generation was not. Happy period of personal professional expansion in 1950s; interesting, informative recruiting forays; competition with Civil Service for graduate students. Queen's as a continuing factor in subject's work-1ife;examples of Queen's economic grads snapped up by Ottawa government employers. Subject's father as Kingston banker (her introduction to Commerce); cashiering as almost exclusively female occupation, too routine for male workers. Male secretaries. Earl Maclaughlin (Head of Royal Bank), John Deutsch (Bank of Canada), as Queen's grads who worked from bottom to top. Stenography as women's work.//Job satisfaction hiring people and seeing them improve, fitting people to the right job. Decision to quit, based on change in office atmosphere, employee-employer relationship based on remuneration rather than attachment, loyalty. Mushrooming number of assistants; job mechanization; loss of human contact, stimulus; loss of identity in huge bureaucracy. Queen's as a closeknit organisation despite growth; present-day organisation of students for orientation. Subject's observation that in her day, students had to be serious to put up with boarding­house life for the sake of studies. Recollection of woman student secretly married before graduation (c. 1926), then unheard-of. Student activities as a vital part of university experience. Financial struggle as partial explanation of single status of many of subject's contemporaries (no easy credit, no possibility of wife working); imposition of single status on career-minded women. Unlimited budget as Bank librarian; government papers as core of financial library (any material having reached book form being out of date). Former attitude to equal work for unequal pay: resignation to acknowledged injustice, satisfaction sought in work itself.

Rowland, Mary Katherine

Lennon, Gladys R.

File consists of a recording of Gladys Lennon. Topics of the conversation include regular four-year relocations as minister's child; family relations with three brothers, connection with Bishop's College (Lennoxville, Quebec). Unwilling enrolment, at father's insistence, in Bishop's education course; seven unhappy years as schoolteacher. English major, French minor at Queen's; continued study of French throughout working life; loss of fluency since removal from French-speaking milieu. Assessment of Canadian bilingualism as 'not much of a prob­lem' (any English-speaking person can learn French if he tries); example of nephew tutored by fellow taxicab drivers. Ambition to drive, thwarted by brothers' prior claim on family car. Business course in Montreal ('which I wanted to do in the first place') following schoolteaching; 23 years' happy employment with Canadian Press. World War II memory of reporting on Montreal munitions factory French­ speaking celebration of its one-millionth shell. Fifteen years' employment with CP in Montreal (opening home to mother after father's death); advantage taken of CP hiring system to transfer to New York; transfer to Toronto. Canadian Press interviewing trip to Newfoundland; entertaining, educational value of CP career; analogous idea of Brian Moore's The Luck of Ginger Coffey. Acceptance of United Church Beard of Home Missions offer of employment; unsought nature of resignation from CP, honest decision that churchwork would be nearer her interests. Choice of 'ministers' grants' portfolio rather than 'church property', pleasure in acquaintance with world-wide endeavours of ministers, missionaries; recently threatened position of Brazilian missionary. Local (Kingston) church missions work as an habitual female preserve, despite numbers of missionaries of both sexes. Current post-retirement responsibility for informing and instructing Queen St. (Kingston) United Church missions units; role as information gatherer, human research index to Colbourne St. missions library; congregational role as prompter, 'trying to get the women interested in what we're supposed to be interested in', hand in Church publications (Mandate, minute remissions). Desire to be relieved of missions responsibilities, while maintaining strong missions interests developed since childhood. Admiration for achievements of female ministers. Single status; marriage as something that 'just never happened'. Lengthy CP position as sole female employee.//Comic anecdote of returned airforce pilot (missing, presumed dead). Self-characterization as neither writer nor talker. Satisfaction with personal lot, unusual chance at 'two such interesting backgrounds'. Mother's support for subject's ambitions; father's selfishness. Appreciation of United Church role as religious 'leader'; admiration for former moderators Howard, McClure.

Lennon, Gladys R.

Nobles, Mildred Katherine

File consists of a recording of Mildred Nobles. Topics of the conversation include influence of Saskatchewan high school teachers (graduates of Queen's) in subject's decision to attend Queen's; Queen's extramural programme as sole viable study option. Avid reading habits as only child, prone to sickness, in Regina; ambition to learn. Three-year spell teaching out west combined with winter correspondence courses, summer attendance at Queen's; two years' full-time study and residence in Kingston. Detour of bats through Ban Righ Hall before installation of screened windows. Intense study habits of mature summer students. Meal-time formality in residence. Slight acquaintance with graduate Dr. Christine Rice, paucity of other women students entering her field. Employment with field pathologist, Ottawa; application for PhD programme motivated by job interest, pathologist's encouragement; enrolment U. of T. 1929-35. Large student enrolment in mycology, pathology; 20-hour student work-days; general research enthusiasm. Circumstantial element in subject's choice of speciality; realisation that fields of study equally fascinating exist by the hundred, are continually opening. Broad, satisfying basis of subject's speciality: work with forest pathologists across Canada, isolating pure fungus cultures for purpose of exact identification. Extensive original work, not only identifying cultures but establishing methods of culture comparison: crude at first, refined into highly satisfactory 'natural' system of classification distinguishing species on the basis of evolutionary developments. 'Nobles Code', system of representative digits used in combination to denote characteristics of fungus cultures, thus facilitating culture comparison; development into punchcard system, international adoption by scientists. Subject's George Lawson Award for contribution to botany; election to Royal Society of Canada. Demonstration at International Botanical Congress (1958), participation as sole woman member in 20-member international symposium at U. of Tennessee (1968); distinction as one of several pioneer women scientists honoured (1975) by Museum of Man, Ottawa. DisIike of 'woman scientist' designation, considered an irrelevant distinction; absence of sexist discrimination in Dept. of Agriculture, perhaps through influence of numerous female researchers, example set by previous women researchers. Separation of Dept. of Forestry from Dept. of Agriculture: subject's lack of direct contact with forest industry. Numerous enjoyable field trips: BC, Alberta, Ontario. Inexpressibly exciting, satisfying, rewarding life as research scientist; numerous international research trips following retirement (1969); occupational benefit of enjoying friends and interests everywhere.

Nobles, Mildred Katherine

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